00:00 Do you have infra technology on your planter? If you don't, do you need it? It's probably a question you've asked. 00:04 We're gonna dig into the viability of infra technology on your planter, and if you don't have it, what can you do to make up for it? 00:11 Kelly Garrett. You began using a planter with infra technology in the year 2017. Here we are seven years later, eighth planting. 00:17 Since then, you swear by it, but only about 20% or so of the farms in America have in furrow technology. You say, you know, it's not that big 00:25 of a deal if you don't have it, you can make certain adjustments. That's what we're covering here today. 00:29 So talk about the adaptations if I don't have it, et cetera. When we started with in furrow, we started with 00:35 what I would call a commodity approach, six twenty four six, you know, a phosphorus popup fertilizer. 00:41 And then that evolved to what we would talk about. It would be cleaner fertility, things like that. And now my corn 00:47 and my soybean inferral are exactly the same except for one thing that of course is insecticide on corn. But we've virtually taken all fertility 00:56 off the inferral of the planter. You know, there's a bit of zinc, a bit of calcium inferral, that's it. 01:01 The micronutrients, the rest of it would be, you know, fulvic acid, A PGR, uh, the calcium of the zinc, like I talked about. 01:08 Those types of products. A macronutrient perspective is just, it, it doesn't pay in our soils. 01:14 But the concern of in furrow always is, or, or any liquid applied on the planter is slowing you down. How does it affect me logistically? Undoubtedly it does. 01:23 So if you're nervous about that, don't know if you should step into it. This bucket can be a great compromise 01:28 or the answer to that problem. I Heard a couple of things there. I heard. First off, if I think I need in furrow technology 01:33 in my planter, it's not just for nutrients, because you don't even put that much in your, in fro you don't, you use some zinc 01:38 and a couple other things, but you're putting your plant growth regulators in there. You're putting your Carbon, the insecticide phos and things like this. 01:44 Yeah. Fulvic acids, ic, Peter Rus, um, we've talked about this when we're commodity classic, you've got a product, it's called Hopper Throttle, 01:51 and you're, you're point to me then was I think this makes up for somebody that doesn't have infra technology 01:56 because you don't have to spend the money on infra technology to get some of the bang for the buck. 02:00 Probably not all of it, but that's the idea here. That's correct. So we look at the value. We know, as Kelly mentioned, 02:05 there's a lot of value in, in furrow. Uh, and, and most of the farms out here aren't set up for in furrow, whether it be 02:10 because they just don't wanna take the time, they don't wanna incur the expense, whatever the case may be, don't have the labor. Uh, 02:15 You, you said there's a few reasons why you wouldn't have it. One of 'em was it does slow your planting pace down. 02:22 That's correct. Is that really that big of a deal? Oh yeah. It could slow you down 20% pretty easily. Okay. So, and especially I, 02:28 I'm thinking I'm a one man operation. I've got three days to get my planning done. Whatever being slowed down, 02:34 A one man operation's gonna slow you down more than 20%. Yeah. Okay. So there's the one knock on it does have some 02:38 expense adding in furrow technology. There's a cost to it, and then you gotta run the ROI and amortize it over time. 02:44 When does our in forrow technology pay for itself in Furrow Technology pays for itself because of the fact that we're establishing a crop earlier, 02:50 we're establishing it better and we're giving it what it needs early to take advantage of the, the nutrients that are out there. 02:55 As, as Kelly mentioned, you know, your NP and K and all the things we do in a broad acre perspective, we're setting it up better to be able 03:01 to take advantage of those. Okay. Then there's the, but it slows me down and it costs money to do it. 03:05 That's right. So you understand why a lot of folks wouldn't do it. So if I don't do it, I've gotta make certain adjustments. 03:09 You said first off that Yes, the pale provides the pale and the, and the, and really the bile capsules that are, that are in the pale, 03:15 the bio capsules provide USS the ability to deliver different technologies like plant growth, regular type technologies, different microbial technologies, 03:22 bio controls, things that we can deliver through there along with nutrients. Where does that go? It goes through the, uh, graphite. 03:29 So it replaces your fluency agent. Every farmer's using a fluency agent. Okay. So we we're meeting the farmer right where they already are 03:34 by adding a fluency agent. Okay. And we're just, we're just piggybacking that application. So I don't have in frow, instead I take this 03:39 and it's got a few different products in there and IPI poke one out and I dump it in where my seed is like a, 03:44 like a talcum powder kind of a thing. That's correct. Alright. You said once a recording We did. If I didn't have in frow, here's what I would do. 03:50 I would do bang, bang, bang, tell me those things. First off, it would be a very in depth, uh, seed treatment program Yep. 03:58 To apply some of the things that we talk about that we would put in furrow, we'll put 'em on the seed. The next thing I would do is I would look at 04:03 the hopper throttle bucket. Peter is able to supply you with three or four different, uh, products 04:09 and it, it's kind of customizable. You can kind of put in there what you want within reason. So between the seed treatment 04:15 and the hopper throttle bucket, I can mimic my inferral program without having to slow down. Okay. 04:20 And by the way, that's all hopper throttle boxes aren't the same. There's different stuff in a few different categories. 04:25 So what I've got, obviously one of 'em has fertility. That's Correct. So we've got fertility 04:28 in the micronutrient space. It's typically in the base of the bucket and in the capsules, we, we provide different technologies 04:34 that that mimic like PGR type activity, organic acid type activity. Uh, we have enzymes that, 04:39 that increase solubility of phosphorus. We also now are in the biocontrol space where we're looking at, uh, corn rootworm microbes, um, uh, 04:46 also able to replace some certain seed treatments in the soybean space for damping off diseases. 04:51 And that kind and more to come. You Are in your eighth year of having infra technology on your planter. 04:56 Yet we're still only around, we think around less than half, maybe even one fifth of the farms in this country 05:02 that even have infra technology. Well, after eight years, it tells me maybe they're not gonna adopt it. 05:07 Period. Do you think that the future of agriculture is, a lot of farms aren't gonna have infra technology and they're gonna use planting a, a, 05:15 a thing, a product like this? Uh, the, the seed treatment, some other adaptations I really do, especially in states like Iowa 05:22 and Illinois, where you would talk about having the good soil. Yep. You know, Matt, Chad, Kevin Temple. 05:29 In the more challenging environment where those guys are at, the higher percentage of those planters 05:33 do have inferral on 'em. But when you get into the Midwest, into the eye states, the corn states, uh, where it's easy to farm. 05:39 Yeah. You know, the adoption of that has been slower and, and maybe will never happen. This bucket and, 05:44 and that seed treatment, those aspects we talk about is a great compromise or a great step in adding to your fertility program. 05:51 The person that's watching this and says, I'm still wondering, Damien asked the question, do I need it? 05:56 You'd say, do I need infer technology? Depends on where you are. Situational operational. I believe that every farmer, 06:01 every grower should look at in furrow technology. But there's di varying degrees of how are you gonna do, are you gonna put a liquid system on your planter? 06:09 Are you gonna do a seed treatment? Are you gonna do some hopper throttle bucket, or are you gonna do a combination of all three That's up 06:15 to you and your desires and your farm? And again, it, it goes back to your labor. You know, we, we have to have one guy 06:21 with a tender trailer running around to all the planters. You know, there's So much stuff in the inver. 06:25 Yes. And, and you're running three planters, you know, so that, that creates a job for another guy. 06:30 If you don't have that labor aspect, that's tough to accomplish all that. Got It. Well, I think 06:35 we answered a question with a bunch more questions. Is the, do you need in info technology and again, operational labor, what your setup is, 06:42 what your soils are, and obviously we've talked about part of the country you are in viability of infra technology. 06:47 If you don't have it, there's things you can do to make up for it. That's what we covered here today with Peter and Kelly. 06:52 Till next time, dam Macy coming at you. Check out all of our great views at Extreme Ag Farm. Alright. Send me a bill.