00:00 All right. Hey folks. Here. We are we are going to now get this thing on the road. This is the Nature's extreme AG panel. We're talking about nutrient reallocation. 00:09 And the reality is it's not reallocation. It's relocation. We're gonna be talking to you about how you can take fertility and put it where it 00:18 needs to be to get a bigger bang for your buck. That's what the subject is today. We have Tommy roach. He 00:24 has the Nature's guy. We have Jason Webster with Precision planting. He's gonna be talking about putting that fertility exactly where you get your biggest bang for your buck. We have 00:33 extreme AG founder Kelly Garrett along with Chad Henderson. All right, Tommy. We talk 00:39 about nutrient reallocation, but it's really fertilizer relocation. Give me what that means because basically in 00:45 the old days we went out and fleeing to drive fertilizer everywhere and we're like, wait a minute. There's got to 00:51 be a better way and that's where this comes in the idea is let's put the nutrients where they need to be. 00:56 Correct. So how many how many still broadcast fertilizer raise your hand? Yes, you do. 01:04 How many of you use? banded fertility whether it's dry or liquid. Those are the Smart Ones you you're smart. 01:14 So we talk we we don't for several reasons efficiency is fertilizer price up or 01:21 down. It's down from yes. What about compared to two years ago three years ago? It's up. 01:32 Do we like throwing money out the window? No, why don't we put yeah. 01:41 It's kind of like when I was growing up we had steers we had show steers and that was throwing money out the window. 01:46 There's no question. There's no question about that. By the way, the only thing that makes horse people look smart or the people that are in the show cattle. 01:56 All right, so get to the point here Tommy we're talking about putting fertilizer where it needs to be instead of putting it 02:02 all over the field. We want to put it where it is. So nutrient reallocation really means relocation putting fertility where 02:08 it needs to be and that is where the plant can utilize it. most officially 02:14 we know that the plants like food. They don't have teeth which is why we have to put fertility. In the furrow and we have to put soluble 02:25 available fertility in the furrow. They don't have scraggly teeth. You have to put soluble fertility that 02:34 way the plant can take it up. So let's go then with somebody that I think is a pretty good about this. We're going to Kelly Garrett. Who and he's 02:44 good at it because he has Mike Evans as his agronomist. And when you think about putting the nutrients where it need to be we talk about this all the time you said for 02:53 forever we've gone out there and we've just put fertilizer on the field because it was cheap and easy to 02:59 do so starting a few years ago fertilizer got really expensive that combined with environmental potential regulatory 03:05 environments down the road. We're going to have a little bit more of shall we say scrutiny? Let's put it where it needs to be. When did you start changing 03:14 your whole look on putting fertility where it needs to be 2017. Reason and the reason for 2017 was that's the 03:22 first year fertilizer started getting crazy or you just decided there's got to be more money to be made because right now crop prices 03:28 are down a little bit 2017 in 2016. We started with drip irrigation opened up a whole new world meeting people meeting different practices different 03:37 choices of application things like that and 17 is when we put first fertility on the planner. When we talk about reallocation, did 03:48 you cut back on fertility, did you add fertility or did you keep fertility the same and just finally put it where it needed to be. 03:56 I would say throughout the learning process. We have done all of those things. But now we're at a point where we 04:02 want to keep the budget where it's at and put on less dry or really no dry fertilizer. And we we very much just try to balance the soil and when 04:11 you balance the soil, that's when the greater things become possible and then use a Nature's products in the planner. We we keep pushing the Nature's fertility later 04:20 and later last year. We had a VT application of K fuel that added nine or ten bushel, and then we even as crazy as it sounds we had an R5 application very 04:29 very late that added 14 and a half bushel and I keep pushing that fertility later and later when the like and corn when it's filling when the ear is filling when 04:38 the kernels are feeling that's when the plan is very hungry. We need to stimulate the plant to go into that balance soil. That's 04:44 the first step balance the soil. So it's available then make the plant hungry is what I would like to say through an 04:50 application a cave Fuel and the results are very nice. the best Testament for Fertility being placed in the right location is 04:59 from Chad Henderson. If you don't listen to the extreme AG cutting the curve podcast, I would encourage you to do so, we did an episode a few months back. Basically Chad 05:08 lives in the area. That's got a lot of development pressure in north, Alabama. He's farming a field that might very 05:14 well becoming a Housing Development next year. He had a field five years that was going to be developed every year for five years. So obviously did not 05:23 go full tilt on putting dry fertilizer out there. He said I'm going to put enough out there to get a crop because this is gonna 05:29 be built to houses next year turns out after five years. He was still getting an amazing crop just by putting the 05:35 fertility in the next to the plant where it needed to be throughout the season using products like from nature. So kind of walk us through that whole 05:44 learning curve because you're like, okay, I'll get one crop. It turns out it was five crops and you didn't really lose a step. It's kind of wake talk about 05:53 putting on a liquid diet, you know, we pick up some Terms we pick up some farms around that maybe we have a couple landlords that 06:01 are in the housing business when they're in a housing because they're buying far foot houses on they're not buying them for me to farm. So but they need to 06:07 keep it in what we'd call, you know, the common practices or keep it in ag to keep 06:13 everything tax bracket wise where it needs to be so their Chad coming here and work is until we work it all well, then you can't put any you can't put any traffic fertility 06:22 out really? It's just kind of like, you know, it's a two or three year plan. So when we put it on a liquid diet like that we learn 06:28 and we've got got to where we've learned a lot about feeding the plant on the timings that it needs and according 06:34 to your C season stuff on how long it can stick around you. I just handling a little business right there. Okay, your name 06:43 is Jason Webster and you are with Precision planting isn't that in? Basically one of your biggest value propositions, 06:49 we're gonna help you get the seed started off right just like Kelly talked about by putting the nutrients where they need to be immediately at the time of planting kind of give us 06:58 how that's evolved. Yes, sir. Well, we have a reallocation program on the farm where we're gonna I mean you got to look at your soil test 07:07 recommendation. How do you actually produce a recommendation from your farm? We're gonna soil test we're gonna look at the total P&K. 07:13 We need based on build up of the soil and then how much crop you want to grow. So I'm at a point where I don't need as much 07:22 dry fertilizer as what I've needed in the past. I'm using it for more of build but here's what 07:28 we do if we would take our soil test recommendation and use nothing but dry fertilizer and blast that are slinging a broadcast and on our Farms like we've done for years and years 07:37 and years then we turn around Do we plant? You've got starter fertilizer on your Planter. How are you going to do this thing? This is where we're getting into the business of over application of nutrients and overspending 07:47 of dollars. So our reallocation program is simply this we're going to drop our dry fertilizer by the 07:55 cost of our starter fertilizer. Now I should be trading nutrient for nutrient pound by pound, but I'm doing it for dollars. So 08:03 farmers can understand this. So a lot of times my starter fertilizer program cost me about $30. I'll bring the Nature's products 08:09 in it's gonna cost me 30 bucks an acre on the planner. All I'm doing is is reducing dry fertilizer in the fall by that 08:15 30 and then putting that $30 on the planner. So I look at it as a starter fertilizer program really being free and then giving me that Bandit that high 08:24 concentrated efficiency. And so this is a win-win that's how we set this thing up on the farm each and every year no slinging 08:30 no broadcast the fertilizer. It's all banded. I'm strip till dry in the fall and then we come in on the planet after the reallocation. 08:38 All right, so the point is You brought the money. You didn't add $30 of cost. You just subtract it from dry fertilizer. There's 08:46 probably a mindset against doing that. Right Kelly's not in his head. Most farmers are like wait a minute. You want me to reduce my 08:52 application of fall fertilizer that's going to cost me. It's just a hard thing to get through mentally wise right? Absolutely it is but that's what you need to do your yield 09:01 your roil go up and your budget will stay the same. Go ahead Chad. So we did exactly same thing. Jason was talking about last year and we come in and let's 09:10 say under stripped to you know, you have to work basically off just a dollars, you know, so my strip table is about 65 to 09:16 75 books is what it was cost me in my draft fertility. So me and Tommy cut that back. Well, you spent 35 books. 09:22 We spent 35 bucks. And when we did we gained was it average 12 15 bush 09:31 That you're it was your job to remember that. Yeah. Well anyway, I just know how all right. So the point is if you anyway you 09:37 didn't even spend $35 more to get 12 bushels. You spent the same amount of money and you grabbed 12 more bushels is at the moral of the story and the I mean the mall the story is it breaks 09:46 every one of us if we go the field and we run the planner and it's about a hundred bucks an acre time you get in Furrow too, but two and 09:52 you're thinking man, this is just bad, but we'll go out there and spread as much Drive fertilizer as it takes to make 500 bushel. 09:58 Yeah, you know, so you kind of just got to get your mind set on we have a fertilizer budget. We have 10:04 a planting budget and just start again Rio reallocating your money to move it around within your budget and it's about it's and to this is something 10:13 that you can't just go out here and you're just gonna start on your farm. It's back to what Jason was talking about. You kind of got to know where you're coming from 10:19 and what you need and don't need and then you make a good plan, but it's definitely be a good trial for anybody to take on. It's 10:25 really eye opening. All right. So I like the idea that it's really fertilizer relocation. That's why we didn't call our location because we're just 10:31 really Saying let's put it where it needs to be. We didn't spend any more money. We cut the dry fertilizer down and we put it where it needs 10:37 to be with the liquid fertilizer, but from Natures, so we didn't spend any more money we put where it needs to be now somebody who's asking this question 10:43 right now Jason they're saying but I don't have this fancy planting equipment the way you're selling it or I can't justify buying a 10:49 hundred thousand dollars of new planting equipment to do this adjustment your answer. 10:54 Can I show something on the screen to answer the question? Can I do that? Yes. 10:59 Can we do this? Okay, let me just show you what we got here this data right here on this graph. If you this is a perfect example of 11:05 our reallocation program the yellow bar on the graph right here is my status quo. This is putting dry fertilizer on in strip till I'm still banding, but 11:14 this is just dry fertilizer. Like we've done for years. We reallocate we drop our dry fertilizer to pay for our liquid. Here's our Nature's 11:22 at plant program on the planter and look how we pick up nine and a half Bush or corn but look at the ROI on it. I'm making 50 bucks an acre. That's one of the things we talked about 11:31 on our research Farm all the time. How is you as a grower? How can you make another $50 an acre on your farm? 11:37 This is how we're doing it just relocating where we're putting this fertilizer. We're gonna drop our dry put this on the planter. We're 11:43 up almost 10 bushel and 50 dollars an acre. Then we bring the foliers in we're not done. We're going to keep going and look how we drive yield 13 and a half bushel higher and 11:52 we're up to 66 dollars. So it's all about efficiency and it's about profit per acre. 11:57 By the way, you notice we're armed with graphs and data because we all know you start at one in the commodity classic and walk to the other end every Booth promise 12:06 you three more bushels per acre. You don't even have to I didn't even plant anything. Hell I don't even Farm I picked up 500 bushels 12:12 an acre last year just by walking this come out of the classic. All right, all joking aside. We'll talk 12:18 about relocation of fertility Tommy. A root can only get so far if I've got really fertile soil on 30 inch rows. It's 15 12:27 inches from middle of that road to where that seed is. Is it doing me any good? No. All right. So here's here's the simple math. 12:37 If you if you take 30 inch rows you figure that the root ball. Can can access your root 12:45 ball is 9 to 12 inches? So if you take that number divide by 30, we'll just say it's it can reach 30 to 12:54 35 percent of the fertility. That's out there. Where is the other 65 to 70 percent at? 13:04 Plant can't get to it which is why we talk about banded fertility with in just plain simple terms 13:11 banded fertility on the planter. Now it's going to vary between nutrient. Where they're talking about nitrogen you're talking about phosphorus you told 13:20 them about potassium. Nitrogen, we know moves a little. It may plant may be able to get we'll just say 40 to 45 percent of the fertility 13:31 that you slung out there. Okay potassium. That's probably in your 30 to 35 percent range because it moves 13:41 a little bit. What does phosphorus do? phosphorus move a lot No, it doesn't move hardly any. 13:51 So you're done in we'll say 20% range of what you put out there in a Broadcast application. 13:59 We're talking about efficiency. All right, let's go to let's go to during the season applications. Let's go to my friend Kelly right here. It's not 14:08 just at time of planting with Jason Webster. It's also about spoon feeding to get those yields. You talked about Chad. You didn't put a bunch of fertilizer on 14:17 early how many times where you putting fertilizer to those plants on those fields that you were going to lose to development? How many times did 14:23 you spoon feed? But like I said, it's staying in front of the curve, you know, you know what to plants gonna do you or we know what the plant's gonna 14:31 do on your particular soils and it's staying in front of that curve with what you're trying to accomplish, you know, whether it's pee or k at 14:37 whatever at whatever point it's staying in front of whether it's with a herbicide application a wide drop application or a late-wide drop maybe in a fungicide application. So there's 14:46 three or four times we can affect it. That's where we try to balance off of and then during the season Kelly and this 14:52 doesn't help out Jason here for precision planting you put on nutrients. Using Nature's products during the season over the 15:00 top. Yes, you know, we can't do a side dress or a wide drop in our Hills. So we use a plane or a helicopter and get like in corn. We'll make a VT pass 15:09 with the fungicide K fuel will be in there. Then we'll go back out at our 4.5 or almost R5 with another K application. The nice thing about that is 15:18 we only do that on our Fields with top end yield potential. The the planner applied stuff is very important. We do 15:24 that as well, but you're spending all that money. The R5 application that's only the top end and we hope that we want to do it on every acre but it doesn't 15:33 always work out mother nature might have different plans for us. I like to save that part of the budget put that there that 15:39 is when the crop is filling the kernel filling the seed filling the Pod. However, you want to say it the crop is very hungry and it's not about the amount of fertility. You're 15:48 putting on it's what you're putting on and when to trigger the plant to to become hungry and do a better job and we 15:54 see big yield results from that Tommy. You're the Agronomy guy. Maybe it's time to ask. The question for 16:00 fertility is down from where it was dry fertilizers cheaper than what was a few years ago. But do I need to drive fertilizer program at all? Maybe I should just do your product 16:09 and just be dribbling it in the in the furrow putting it in two by two coming out there with wide drops going over the top like Kelly does do I need dry fertilizer at 16:18 all, or should I just use your stuff? So back, here's a here's a bad story. So back in the 16:26 I think 60s or 70s. When Natures was running around the countryside they they went to the program of all 16:35 you need is the inferral piece. You don't need any anything else. Well, that's really not the right 16:41 answer because it's all about pieces of the puzzle. And drive fertility is a piece of a puzzle. 16:49 Liquid fertility is a piece of puzzle where you put is another piece what you use which we haven't even talked about that. 16:57 Because there's differences in how many forms of nitrogen are there. How many? 17:04 There's five good how many forms of phosphorus are there? one two three 17:12 Three the smart man there in the green. Yes. There's three forms of phosphorus. Rock phosphate which is used to make all the 17:20 phosphoric acid. And you have polyphosphate? Orthophosphate what's the difference between Ortho phosphate and polyphosphate? 17:33 Green green and white. So Ortho is white poly is green. You have to break apart polyuns for the plant to take it up plants can 17:45 only take up Ortho phosphate. thirdly potassium how many forms of potassium are there are there? 17:55 So there is a laundry list a big laundry list of what you can use for potassium, right? 18:03 You can have KCl you can have sulfate nitrate. Thousulfate there's lots of different choices and then there's potassium acetate. 18:15 So if you were to walk around on the other side of the booth. I brought my lab set up and 18:22 I'm actually running solubility tests over there. But that's a math setup. He's a chemistry guy. It's not a meth setup. It's a 18:33 math setup back there. Thanks for your southern accent. I'm sorry, Tom. So the potassium acetate over there in that 18:42 flask. It's already dissolved. I can dissolve a whole lot more potassium acetate. and a small amount of water then you can 18:51 chloride And we can go over there and look at it after this is all done drinking a beer which is at two at 3:30 at 3:30 the 18:59 bar rolls in here. And actually a lot of people are looking around sort of licking their chops going. Can we get that bar open a little bit early right? I 19:05 know what you're thinking. All right. Let's go on now to our friend from Precision planning. Okay, Kelly went and 19:11 said that you don't need to do this all the time of planting. There's also wide drops you can do like Chad does but 19:17 talk about the importance of getting everything off to the right start. You showed us that but how important is it? What 19:23 if I say, I'm not gonna put in that stuff in at time of planting. I'm going to though do it during the season. Have I missed out? Well, I think we've got to get the corn crop to V5 or 19:33 V6 to set rounds. I think we got to get through that that timing that Foundation if we miss out if we short ourselves on fertility, everybody know what 19:42 I'm talking about. We building the foundation to V5 when the good Lord made a corn plant at V5 V6. It initiates the first yield 19:48 determination and what is that? Grounds, that's your girls. Congratulations. You have a 14 16 18 or heaven forbid of 20 round. If I 19:56 don't have the fertility to get there. I'm gonna suck back and you can't correct it once you set your Earth at 20:02 V5 or V6. You can't spray something else. It's a tassel time and make a 14 Round and 18 round. It don't work that way. So we say let's build the 20:11 foundation get through V5 or V6 and then we can handle a little stress, but we can tissue tests we can figure out where we're at and apply accordingly. 20:19 All right. I'm gonna go now to Chad again. The example you gave us about spoon feeding and keeping a crop for five years. What if that farm ground 20:29 had not gone into development. Would you have been screwed if they said you know, what you're gonna Farm it now for the next 10 years or how far off would we have been based on 20:39 your fertility practices of just spoon feeding a crop along every year thinking you're going to lose the field to development? Well say 20:45 that farm was a dry land field a dry land field in Alabama will have you know, 40 bushel 40 to 50 bushel beans 20:51 will have a hundred and seventy to 210 or 15 bushel corn. It's all about, you know, Jason talk about it's all about what we remove from it. So when we 21:00 had a good base to start with then remove Removal really comes into play in this situation and that was a great question talking about I just don't know 21:09 that you can get I mean that first bump that we talk about the first wall we got to cross whether it's 220 Bush or 21:15 230 bushel. I just it's really hard to climb over that wall unless you have the available nutrients at plenty. I mean I've been there and I fought it, you know 21:24 liquid and fertilizer. It's gonna slow you down. You're not gonna plant as fast. I mean, it's gonna be a problem that some sort 21:30 there's there's a lot of bad with it, but there's it's Very hard in my soil conditions that you can't cross that wall without starting that early and starting 21:39 with that Rose rail risk and reward risk and reward. I mean some days You're Gonna glazed donut, but it'll be all right. 21:48 All right. your products Tommy Obviously we're talking about putting it at time of need and we're going to cover that tomorrow. Tomorrow's tomorrow. Tomorrow's subject 21:58 is going to be. Targeting moments of influence periods of influence meaning when your plant needs it getting it out there and 22:06 the importance of timing and also shall we say Place timing and placement timing and placement? With that said well we're talking about today about reallocation. Do 22:16 soil samples matter as much if we can use your product as Chad did and still get a great crop by just putting it on the plant when the plant needs it exactly what 22:25 needs to be how important or soil samples are. They less important now given the technology that nature has no 22:30 Soul samples give you a baseline what is potentially out there and available for the plant so that helps you 22:38 plan for what you're going to do as far as further on into the season whether it be on the planner or later on in foliar applications, 22:48 but you got to have a baseline to start with. Go ahead. Yes, please Jason. So I do think a short test is important for us. I mean, I've got a research Farm where it's still 22:58 relatively new. It's five years old. We're trying to fix it. We're trying to repair it and part of that is getting fertility levels 23:04 of where they need to be. So we are going to soil test try to do a better job of that balance our soils. 23:10 To move a soil test point I still believe that we do need dry fertilizer to build the soil test point if you need to do that on your farm, but then I'm going 23:19 to use the maintenance side of things for all of the Nature's fertility. Side of it so build up dry maintenance liquid. We're 23:26 going to talk about money with Kelly Garrett. So I want you to give me some money examples. Let's face it. You came to commodity classic you spent the money and the time to be here because you want to improve your 23:35 operation farming is a lifestyle. It's also business businesses make money. We're gonna talk about the money before we do that. We're gonna 23:41 get my buddy Dan Blocker over here. He's got a couple questions. Okay. So let's take Kelly you'd get a new field. 23:49 And so you do get a soil sample. So I think you guys kind of answered though. You do need dry fertilizer to get 23:57 you back up. Because cost per unit of the liquids is usually fairly High. So you do need dry fertilizer to 24:07 get things fixed. You can't rely on say a liquid program to get you back up. 24:16 We're talking about to break to bring up to bring a depleted field back up to bring it to depleted field back 24:22 up. So let's say you pick up 160 acre chunk of ground. It's been kind of mind. What what's your program? 24:28 Well, I'm starting to develop a new opinion and you know Chad's going to give me a hard time here when Chad comes to my house. He tries to put dirt in his pocket. Take it home. Okay, and 24:37 so in Iowa, there's been this generational thing that a farmer has raped a field or depleted the field. I find that more often than not the 24:46 fields out of balance. So the dry for light you're suggesting I probably need a bunch of potash. Maybe but I would tell you that there's a lot of potassium in 24:56 that soil in the soils out of balance and I would tell you to fix that soil. I probably need a lot of ammonium sulfate because we need to sulfur to 25:02 balance the base saturation. So I don't like the word depleted anymore. I like the word out of balance because more often than not in my soils, which admittedly in 25:11 Iowa we have we're blessed with great soils. It's out of balance. 25:15 By the way, I'm the one that said depleted Dan did not say that. I'm the one that said that okay, why was trying to be in direct? Because I don't like to be challenged. I don't mind actually is anybody 25:24 else have a question. Obviously, we're here for you to be informational. Yes. All right. 25:30 All right. So remember we're not we're not going to change with liquid fertility. We're not going to change bulk soil characteristics. 25:39 We're interested in seeing these plants behind me. That's what we're interested in feeding feed the plant put nutrition where the plant 25:48 can access it in an efficient manner. Back on say like your yellow graph or you talked about so again on dry fertilizer side 25:58 of things when you do get to field balanced. Like what is your poundage of dry that? You're I guess you'd say maintaining along with 26:07 the liquid program. What's kind of it? You got a general or do you mean yes, or I don't use Drive fertility. I have a byproduct. I get out of liquid 26:16 feed industry and I'm only putting on about 30 pounds of potassium. 26:20 Okay. Yeah, that's that's different from many. He has a plant food byproduct and it's also a side business. But if you were doing can you address that from an agronomic thing 26:29 you're talking about how much if you did use dry fertility? If I did use dry fertility, I would be interested in 26:35 potentially like say 230 bushel corn removes about 64 pounds of potassium in the grain. So I would talk about that the product 26:44 I put on is much more available than what I think potash is and you know, we've identified two different soil 26:50 tests. We've identified what's in the corn stove over things like that. I'm trying to balance the soil make it healthier. So I'm way 26:56 more interested in putting on this by product on AM Drive fertilizer and then balancing my soil coming back 27:02 with Tommy's products. And I think that's one special things happen from a yield standpoint. 27:06 And good chance something else we'll got to remember is when you take off when you start making big crops on farms. You start 27:12 putting big. Big amounts back in you can see like when we started irrigating in 2012 and our ground is really high in red, you know, but our ground you can 27:22 always see now it's 10 years 13 you 10 or 12 years, then you can see the ground starting to change colors if you will and you can see where we're putting big crops big Stover, you 27:31 know, we're doing a wheat bean corn rotation three crops two years. It's a lot of material going back into the soul. And 27:37 so we got to come talk about that too. And you know, we we all need to soil test too for pH if we don't fix pH we can't fix any of this. So we got to start, 27:46 you know, understanding where we need on ph as well. So that's that's a monkey in the room also, but on our strip 27:52 till we started out when I first got a trip to I was it, you know, let's say over 200 pounds 250 pounds and now 27:58 I'm down to where I'm putting out like a hundred hundred fifteen, you know, so we just don't understanding. I don't know where Jason and 28:04 where would you say that y'all are at on the Strip till it's poundage. Well on the Strip tail, I mean we'll saw test if we get built up levels to 28:12 where we want them. We're just streak going to go off a maintenance. So we would have zero build and so that means no dry fertilizer. 28:18 We'd only go liquid on the planter to drive it from there. That's how we'd set it up. 28:24 Yeah, and we just use land grant University numbers on what it takes to grow a bushel a corner soybeans to calculate 28:30 that. Yeah. Wait a minute. Wait, wait land grant University numbers. If it's Auburn Purdue good. You're not 28:36 taking Ohio State numbers. Are you? The Ohio State? Yeah. All right. Let's let's go over here and get Jason Jason has 28:45 a question for us Jason. If you're new to Nature's and liquid fertilizer in general what one or two products would you like to me to use K fuel? 28:55 Okay, Chad. It's one of the best products in the whole Market K Fuel and Tommy gives the go ahead Jack. Oh, if 29:02 you're on the max in there to know if you want to humic in there is the same thing with humic or if you're needing to 29:08 sulfur it's okay Flex. Okay Flex, so it's going depends what how you're gonna apply it if we're talking on the planter. 29:17 Then you would get steered toward the typical corn starter, which is high in p205. 29:25 lower in k2o So I would steer you toward either impulse which is a 10 18 4, which is what we use a lot 29:34 of on Precision planning Farm or a first down which has higher amount of potassium acid in it. 29:43 Which is kind of the second generation from impulse. So those two infer of course if you get in season. 29:51 We don't want you to do anything that is going to cause. An extra pass across the field we want we want 29:59 to be able to supply nutrition. To tank mix in the herbicide to take mix into fungicide that it can just get a free ride across 30:08 the field. It's kind of the logical thing to do it because if you're if you're touting something that's going 30:15 to cause extra pass that may not be such a good thing. But if you free ride across the field say with Finish Line in with the herbicide, that's 30:24 the way to go. All right. So the recommendation was K fuel by the way to our friend John's question was if you're going to use one 30:33 product K Fuel and you'd use it Kelly every which way to Sunday drop it in a drop into Furrow put it two by two over the top airplanes. 30:43 Just buy some put your pantry one product. I used to save potassium acetate Tommy gets after me because he wants me to say he's got so stinking many k products. I can't remember them all 30:52 so I just say k fuel By the way, many of you weren't here last year and we joked Tommy name is the products that come out of Nature's. So a lot 31:00 of them because he's a huge Texas Tech football fan. So it's first down touchdown offside 31:06 triple option losing season. And then just for Chad because he's racing cars Finish Line. Yeah, perfect. And then if 31:17 you're going to stick with the Texas Tech theme they got new product coming out next year's called didn't make a bowl game. 31:25 All right moving on those anybody else have any questions at all while we're having fun with this. Okay. We got question back here. I 31:31 saw somebody saying okay. Hang on a second. Yes, sir, Mr. Joel. So you were talking about not making an extra 31:38 pass, but I know a lot of guys are already doing why drops or 31:43 Irrigation, would you wreck any of these products whether be sub-service drip or through a pivot or a wide drop? 31:49 Are you seeing you know better through the drip versus this needs wide drop this needs pump through a pivot better one way 31:58 another doesn't matter. Kfuel is so available to the plant that I have put it through my drip irrigation and I 32:06 can pick up a rise in my tissue levels in three days. All of these products work great through my drip irrigation and this is not because we're we're right across 32:15 the aisle from net of film. He runs K fuel through the drip all the time. We do it on the PTI Farm on 32:23 the the wide drop topic. What's the what's three things that improve nitrogen utilization three 32:32 nutrients? Jason three. What's the question to say it again? Three three nutrients or three things that improve nitrogen utilization? 32:44 Sulfur sulfur is sulfur is a big one for us and it's so mobile. I usually say that that's almost like a the toilet bowl effect. We get flush you give me a 32:53 little bit of rain. And that's all for his gone. We are a seven to one nitrogen to sulfur ratio on our farm so far is a big one. That's number 32:59 one. Number two. Is a big one copper is a big one is a potassium potassium. Tommy gets on me a lot. That's why he asked this question because I kind 33:10 of forgot about potassium when when we acquired the PTI Farm our pounds per acre of potassium. We're about 250 pounds. 33:19 And I'm having a hard time driving K levels and then you look at the price of potash being where it's at and I'm really not real motivated about spreading a 33:28 bunch of extra potash on the farm to build levels up and I don't want the salt. I don't want the chloride. So one of the things we've done is try to put out, you 33:37 know, fix the hole in the boat. If you will is K fuse bringing K fuse in as a liquid potassium so 33:43 we can feed this thing. We're putting it through conceal dual band dual band K fuse through 33:49 conceal of planning time, and that's that's Fix the problem for us. I don't run into potassium deficiency as a result. 33:57 Third thing is humic acids, so to run through Wide Rock. We have a thing called Keflex or 34:05 Keflex Max. That's what you would add into your nitrate your uan now with any chemistry thing 34:13 you can only stuff so much potassium into a nitrate. Because it will cause a train wreck. So depending on if it's 28 or 32 if 34:22 it's cold hot typically 10 10 to 1 ratio 10 gallons of UE and a gallon of a k-product. 34:31 And dilution is the solution. So if you run into trouble add equal amount of water. 34:41 All right. So anybody have a question while we're moving on here? We're getting ready close to wrapping it up. And that bar is gonna be rolling in here. What did we 34:47 not cover about nutrient reallocation which really means relocation in the field in this topic and this panel discussion what one thing that you want to tell 34:56 them if they're thinking about this we pretty well covered dry was how we did things for a long time. You got a lot of nutrients where they're 35:02 not necessarily doing as much good now, we're talking about being Precision. We're talking about putting it where it is Kelly talk about putting it over the top Chad 35:08 gave us an example of how we can actually nurse a crop along for five years by using these methods and it's remarkable that in the old days. We thought 35:17 nope. Just gotten fling dry. What did we not cover besides those three big takeaways? 35:22 So I guess one thing I'd want to bring up is this could be really as easy as not everybody set up for liquid on the planter. Not 35:31 everybody has a strip tool unit. This could be as simple as kind of like we've talked about is. 35:38 Hold back some dollars from your dry program and spend it in season. Follow your wide drop fertigate 35:47 because knowing when corn plants soybean plants are doing what they do. You can really and this will be 35:56 the topic tomorrow. You can really push yield when if you know what you're doing and when to do it, my name is Damien Mason. That is 36:05 Tommy roach with Natures. 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